Monday, July 17, 2006

March of Folly

That's the title of Paul Krugman's op-ed in the NY Times from Monday the 17th of July (subscription only). It’s all the quotes made by people in the past with regard to Iraq.

Personally, given how we have messed up the country, I would want us to stay in Iraq till we stabilize things a bit. But that won’t happen under this administration, and they have to go. This president ought to be impeached.

“The greatest thing to come out of [invading Iraq] for the world economy ... would be $20 a barrel for oil.” Rupert Murdoch, chairman of News Corporation (which owns Fox News)
February 2003

“Oil Touches Record $78 on Mideast Conflict.”
Headline on, July 14, 2006

“The administration’s top budget official estimated today that the cost of a war with Iraq could be in the range of $50 billion to $60 billion,” saying that “earlier estimates of $100 billion to $200 billion in Iraq war costs by Lawrence B. Lindsey, Mr. Bush’s former chief economic adviser, were too high.” The New York Times, Dec. 31, 2002

“According to C.B.O.’s estimates, from the time U.S. forces invaded Iraq in March 2003, $290 billion has been allocated for activities in Iraq. ... Additional costs over the 2007-2016 period would total an estimated $202 billion under the first [optimistic] scenario, and $406 billion under the second one.” Congressional Budget Office, July 13, 2006

“Peacekeeping requirements in Iraq might be much lower than historical experience in the Balkans suggests. There’s been none of the record in Iraq of ethnic militias fighting one another that produced so much bloodshed and permanent scars in Bosnia.” Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of defense and now president of the World Bank, Feb. 27, 2003

“West Baghdad is no stranger to bombings and killings, but in the past few days all restraint has vanished in an orgy of ‘ethnic cleansing.’ Shia gunmen are seeking to drive out the once-dominant Sunni minority and the Sunnis are forming neighborhood posses to retaliate. Mosques are being attacked. Scores of innocent civilians have been killed, their bodies left lying in the streets.” The Times of London, July 14, 2006

“Earlier this week, I traveled to Baghdad to visit the capital of a free and democratic Iraq.” President Bush, June 17, 2006

“People are doing the same as [in] Saddam’s time and worse. ... These were the precise reasons that we fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same things.” Ayad Allawi, Mr. Bush’s choice as Iraq’s first post-Saddam prime minister, November 2005

“Iraq’s new government has another able leader in Speaker Mashhadani. ... He rejects the use of violence for political ends. And by agreeing to serve in a prominent role in this new unity government, he’s demonstrating leadership and courage.” President Bush, May 22, 2006
“Some people say ‘we saw you beheading, kidnappings and killing. In the end we even started kidnapping women who are our honor.’ These acts are not the work of Iraqis. I am sure that he who does this is a Jew and the son of a Jew.” Mahmoud Mashhadani, speaker of the Iraqi Parliament, July 13, 2006

“My fellow citizens, not only can we win the war in Iraq, we are winning the war in Iraq.” President Bush, Dec. 18, 2005

“I think I would answer that by telling you I don’t think we’re losing.” Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, when asked whether we’re winning in Iraq, July 14, 2006

“Regime change in Iraq would bring about a number of benefits for the region. ...Extremists in the region would have to rethink their strategy of jihad. Moderates throughout the region would take heart, and our ability to advance the Israeli-Palestinian peace process would be enhanced.” Vice President Dick Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002

“Bush — The world is coming unglued before his eyes. His naïve dreams are a Wilsonian disaster.” Newsweek Conventional Wisdom Watch, July 24, 2006 edition

Boy was it hot and humid today. Almost hit 95 here!

A can of coke never looked this good...


Keshi said...

lol @ the pic!

**“The greatest thing to come out of [invading Iraq] for the world economy ... would be $20 a barrel for oil.” Rupert Murdoch,

hehe isnt that a great statement!


Eli said...

“Earlier this week, I traveled to Baghdad to visit the capital of a free and democratic Iraq.” President Bush, June 17, 2006

I wonder which Iraq it was that he visited...

Dadoji said...

Yes, that June 17 statement is a real keeper - as is the one by DickC and Gen.S.

KJ, I am linking to this post on my blog.

karmic_jay said...

@keshi.. hehe ye, and he is a former Aussie too. not that it has anything to do with it. ;)

@Eli.. Must have been the Iraq is in his head?

@Dadoji.. Link away mate.

M (tread softly upon) said...

It's hot and humid here too. heat index is over a hundred!

Piki said...

I so agree, Bush should be impeached!!! What Iraq is he talking about??? Is he looking at the same place the rest of the world is? I don't think so. Ever since he became president, this country has had problems.
BTW, it is hot here too. It was 102 yesterday!

karmic_jay said...

Piki.. he is not looking at the same world as us. Well he does not read newspapers, and I think his advisors on ly tell him what he wants to hear.

Stay cool and thanks for stopping by. :)

jason said...


I googled the words: Impeach Bush and got 9,410,000 results.

When you enclose it in quotes "Impeach Bush" you get 3,780,000 results.

karmic_jay said...

Thanks Jason. Must be a mix of pro and anti - impeach sentiments.

jason said...

no doubt. But it might be interesting to check once in a while as a kind of barometer.

Shitrint said...

heya!! finally i accessed ur blog!
sorry i directly went on to comment without even reading ur post!!
shucks this already missing "blogging the normal way!!"
see u around!

Id it is said...

Remember he is divinely lead; he hears 'the voice' and that guides him.
I wonder what voice that is? The Saudi Royal Family's?

The Iraq fiasco is a two edged sword. It's going to leave a gash in the American side either ways. Can you guess who's holding this sword?

karmic_jay said...

@shitrint.. see ya soon

@id it..Is it Iran?

Keshi said...

yes and he's a media giant here :)


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